From president at gcna.info Mon Jul 31 12:46:18 2006 From: president at gcna.info (GCNA President) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:46:18 -0700 Subject: Historic Preservation changes Message-ID: <004201c6b4d9$fdbeca40$0a00a8c0@TVS> Howdy All. At our meeting this Thursday, 7pm at Emerson School, we will be discussing and possibly voting on support for, changes to the Historic Preservation Ordinance. Barbara Stocklin has very kindly shared a table that shows the proposed changes. I don't have time to have our webmaster put it up on the GCNA web site, so I have posted it here (http://tylerstorey.com/GCNA.htm) for you to view if you wish. If the link does not come across live, you'll need to cut and paste the address into your browser, as there is no link from the main site. Sorry for the awkwardness. Thanks much, Tyler -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060731/6619de7f/attachment.htm From macalpines at yahoo.com Mon Jul 31 18:39:09 2006 From: macalpines at yahoo.com (macalpines restaurant/soda fou) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Business Mixer Invite for any Coronado residents that run a business out of their home. Message-ID: <20060801013909.8250.qmail@web51909.mail.yahoo.com> Join us for FUN, FREE FOOD, FREE MASSAGE, DOOR PRIZES, AND FREE CORONADO BUSINESS MARKETING, introductions and mixing it up with the business in your neighborhood. Please bring plenty of business cards to pass out. Our guest speakers will be from the City of Phoenix -discuss topics like how we as businesses can unite and get grant money for improvements, get numbers on who to call for help in the City regarding graffiti, crime, transients, and street cleanup. Come with your questions and be ready for answers. Make your voice count!! Greater Coronado Business Coalition Net Mix Tuesday, August 1, 2006, 6-7:30 pm 2303 N Seventh Street @ MacAlpine?s Soda Fountain NE Corner of 7th Street and Oak, between McDowell and Thomas. RSVP 602-255-0600 or email Dr. Canham elitebodys at qwest.net. If you are not able to attend but are interested in more information, please email Dr Canham. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1?/min. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060731/ce1cd769/attachment.htm From macalpines at yahoo.com Mon Jul 31 19:26:11 2006 From: macalpines at yahoo.com (macalpines restaurant/soda fou) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Thank you from MacAlpine's/ Shirley Mae's Message-ID: <20060801022611.34955.qmail@web51903.mail.yahoo.com> We just wanted to send a "Thank you" out to the neighborhood for the support we have received from the Coronado neighborhood. MacAlpine?s is having a great summer! Knock on wood! I was really worried because we could not make it through another summer like last year. Thankfully, we have been really busy! We sure are serving a lot more chocolate phosphates and meatloaf. I am sure that is because of Donna, Maureen and Randy's recommendations ( : I worked Shirley Mae's Furniture and Retro store yesterday. Tyler was my first customer and then I had two other people from Coronado. More than half of my day was from Coronado residents which was phenomenal! I know there has been some "reminders" on the message board that summers are hard and family businesses really need the support. Thanks, again! You've been great neighbors and friends! Monica and Cary --------------------------------- Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060731/d484bca7/attachment.htm From josepi at doitnow.com Mon Jul 31 23:19:52 2006 From: josepi at doitnow.com (Jo Clute) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:19:52 -0700 Subject: Pilot Screening for Comedy Central at the Paper Heart Message-ID: <04c001c6b532$80489330$6b01a8c0@JoClute> Hi all! Sam is actually a Downtown developer as well, doing two major projects on the corners of 9th St. and Roosevelt. His pilot is a 'Reno 911' type spoof but of all the chopper shows on discovery channel. I have seen some of the scenes and its hilarious AND he is one of the actual actors in the series... (He's smokin' HOT, too :-) A must see!!!! J ----- Original Message ----- From: macyfilms at aol.com Cc: Macyfilms at aol.com Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:22 PM Subject: Pilot Screening Greetings All. As many of you know, I have been writing/producing/directing a pilot for Comedy Central for the last few months. The pilot is finished and we are screening it August 3rd, 8 pm, at the Paper Heart Gallery on Grand Avenue. www.thepaperheart.com Admission is free. The gallery has a full bar too. Several of the actors will also be attending. Please attend, if you can, and bring friends. There will also be live music after the screening. Please let me know if you're coming. Hope to see you all soon. Sam -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060731/cb2854d2/attachment.htm From josepi at doitnow.com Mon Jul 31 23:41:11 2006 From: josepi at doitnow.com (Jo Clute) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:41:11 -0700 Subject: 2006 tax credits for home energy upgrades Message-ID: <04d901c6b535$7af182e0$6b01a8c0@JoClute> Treasury and IRS Provide Guidance for energy Credits for Homeowners IR-2006-34, Feb. 21, 2006 Washington - The Treasury Department and the IRS today have issued guidance (Notice 2006-26) on the certification that homeowners may rely on when they claim credits for purchases that make their homes more efficient. During 2006, individuals can make energy-conscious purchases that will provide tax benefits when filling out their tax returns next year. The credit will also be available for purchases in 2007. Manufacturers offering energy efficient items such as insulation or storm windows can assure their customers that their energy efficient items will qualify for the tax credit if certain energy efficiency requirements are met. A recent tax law change provides a tax credit to improve the energy efficiency of existing homes. The law provides a 10 percent credit for buying qualified energy efficiency improvements. To qualify, a component must meet or exceed the criteria established by the 2000 International Energy Conservation Code (including supplements) and must be installed in the taxpayer's main home in the United States. The following items are eligible: a.. Insulation systems that reduce heat loss/gain b.. Exterior windows (including skylights) c.. Exterior doors d.. Metal roofs (meeting applicable Energy Star requirements). In addition, the law provides a credit for costs relating to residential energy property expenses. To qualify as residential energy property, the property must meet certification requirements prescribed by the Secretary of the Treasury and must be installed in the taxpayer's main home in the United States. The following items are eligible: a.. $50 for each advanced main air circulating fan b.. $150 for each qualified natural gas, propane, or oil furnace or hot water heater c.. $300 for each item of qualified energy efficient property. The maximum credit for all taxable years is $500 - no more than $200 of the credit can be attributable to expenses for windows. Additionally, the new law makes a credit available to those who add qualified solar panels, solar water heating equipment, or a fuel cell power plant to their homes in the United States. In general, a qualified fuel cell power plant converts a fuel into electricity using electrochemical means, has an electricity-only generation efficiency of more than 30 percent and generates at least 0.5 kilowatts of electricity. Taxpayers are allowed one credit equal to 30 percent of the qualified investment in a solar panel up to a maximum credit of $2,000, and another equivalent credit for investing in a solar water heating system. No part of either system can be used to heat a pool or hot tub. Additionally, taxpayers are also allowed a 30 percent tax credit for the purchase of qualified fuel cell power plants. The credit may not exceed $500 for each .5 kilowatt of capacity. These items must be placed in service after Dec. 31, 2005 and before Jan. 1, 2008. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060731/53d128e9/attachment.htm From josepi at doitnow.com Tue Aug 1 00:13:31 2006 From: josepi at doitnow.com (Jo Clute) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 00:13:31 -0700 Subject: Fw: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming Message-ID: <04ed01c6b539$ff735670$6b01a8c0@JoClute> With the recently announced record billions of profits in the oil industry (American or otherwise), with the spontaneous obliteration of a major US city, and now (today) record breaking heat waves in all of recorded history (add to this that it would have been worse had we not have had all of the pollution), I am just hoping we are all still keeping this in the fore front of our minds and actions. I am currently researching the cost of a small electric car with home solar to power it so I will update you all with the info when I recieve it.. see newscast below http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=1853202n > CBS News Online > > > Jo > josepi at doitnow.com > From capt.jack12 at juno.com Tue Aug 1 04:27:23 2006 From: capt.jack12 at juno.com (capt.jack12 at juno.com) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:27:23 GMT Subject: Fw: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming Message-ID: <20060801.042806.717.92187@webmail53.lax.untd.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060801/f2429da9/attachment.bat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060801/f2429da9/attachment.htm From antpeople at hotmail.com Tue Aug 1 05:52:46 2006 From: antpeople at hotmail.com (Julie Ann) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:52:46 +0000 Subject: Pilot Screening for Comedy Central at the Paper Heart In-Reply-To: <04c001c6b532$80489330$6b01a8c0@JoClute> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060801/c81a695e/attachment.htm From hazey_marie at hotmail.com Tue Aug 1 07:02:54 2006 From: hazey_marie at hotmail.com (Ivana Olson) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 07:02:54 -0700 Subject: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming In-Reply-To: <20060801.042806.717.92187@webmail53.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: This website has a preview of the documentary (it's in a link off to the right side of the article). http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/223/index.html Usually this type of documentary will make it to IFC (cable channel, for those unfamiliar) in good time. -Ivana From andrea.delgaldo at highstream.net Tue Aug 1 07:49:56 2006 From: andrea.delgaldo at highstream.net (andrea.delgaldo at highstream.net) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:49:56 -0400 Subject: Historic Preservation changes In-Reply-To: <004201c6b4d9$fdbeca40$0a00a8c0@TVS> References: <004201c6b4d9$fdbeca40$0a00a8c0@TVS> Message-ID: <1154443796.44cf6a14f3681@webmail.highstream.net> Thanks Tyler. Quoting GCNA President : > Howdy All. At our meeting this Thursday, 7pm at Emerson School, we will be > discussing and possibly voting on support for, changes to the Historic > Preservation Ordinance. Barbara Stocklin has very kindly shared a table > that shows the proposed changes. I don't have time to have our webmaster > put it up on the GCNA web site, so I have posted it here > (http://tylerstorey.com/GCNA.htm) for you to view if you wish. If the link > does not come across live, you'll need to cut and paste the address into > your browser, as there is no link from the main site. Sorry for the > awkwardness. Thanks much, > > Tyler > > From president at gcna.info Tue Aug 1 10:14:01 2006 From: president at gcna.info (GCNA President) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:14:01 -0700 Subject: Ordinance revisions Message-ID: <001601c6b58d$e219ddc0$0a00a8c0@TVS> Howdy all: Our intrepid webmaster has once again saved the day, and the proposed ordinance changes for Historic Preservation are now available on the GCNA site home page. Click "Ordinance Revisions" on the GCNA site: http://gcna.info/ Hope to see you all 7pm this Thursday at Emerson School. Tyler -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060801/e3100953/attachment.htm From josepi at doitnow.com Tue Aug 1 10:38:36 2006 From: josepi at doitnow.com (Jo Clute) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:38:36 -0700 Subject: Fw: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming References: <20060801.042806.717.92187@webmail53.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <062101c6b591$52014c60$6b01a8c0@JoClute> I heard that is an awesome movie and I have read about it. But they are reappearing in different forms. some will stay like golf carts but not very functional. The EV1's were all leased no sold so when the lease ran out NO ONE was allowed to buy it or keep it or they were threatened with Grand theft auto. The thing about using an electric car is that it still uses electricity made with fossil fuels so having a private solar system is the only way that I would make it happen. politically speaking, Biodiesel gets rid of our dependency on foreign oil and that alone would reduce massive emissions just on transporting all that oil and its processing and distribution but the motors still have some emissions.. This is all new to me and I am on a mission to see what my silly life could take with a change like this and I am in construction! Thanks for the info :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: capt.jack12 at juno.com To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Fw: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming Jo, Was just told of a movie that is out in San Diego (and may be around here too), "Death of the Electric Car". It tells the saga of the EV1 which was the electric car that was essentially too good for the public and therefore killed by the oil company interests here in the US. If you see it playing around you should see it, just to see what should be on the market today, ________________________________________________________________________ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ --Note-- By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post to the central-city-discuss list. --Disclaimer-- The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060801/d775ed92/attachment.htm From dennismacleod at yahoo.com Tue Aug 1 13:30:04 2006 From: dennismacleod at yahoo.com (Dennis Mac Leod) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fwd: Aug 5th EAA meeting, Sat 10 AM SPR Project Drive Message-ID: <20060801203005.75139.qmail@web32412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "jstack6 at juno.com" wrote: From: "jstack6 at juno.com" Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 04:01:51 GMT To: jstackeaa at yahoo.com Subject: Aug 5th EAA meeting, Sat 10 AM SPR Project Drive Electric Auto Association members and friends, (blind mailing to prevent spam) It's almost time for our August meeting. It will be this Saturday August 5th at 10 am in the SRP Project Drive building. In August we will also have the showing 8-11-2006 of the new movie Who killed the electric car and the Mens Luxury Toy Expo-Auction August 18-20th. Come and get all the details. The best articles I have read about the movie and EV's in general was in lightconnection . I asked them for 50 magazines and they should be here for the meeting , FREE ! http://www.lightconnectiononline.com/features.html#Article3 also a former GM sales person Chelsea Sexton article http://www.lightconnectiononline.com/article4.html BRING ANY NEWS YOU HAVE - This month we will talk about the many new Electric Vehicles coming out and plugin hybrids in the news. Many people have heard about the super sports car the tesla released in Silicon Valley on July 20th. At about $100,000 and 0-60 in 4 sec with a top speed of 130 mph it's not your average EV. It has a range of 250 miles, but not at those times. The good news is if it sells to the big bucks sports car people it can change the idea about EVs. I wrote them and asked about coming to the Mens Luxury Toy show but haven't recieved an answer. I also told them I would get over 300 miles range if they let me lease it for a month. Hey you never know what they may go for ! http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php?js_enabled=1 On the small side my Twike is shipping from Germany very soon but won't make it here until the end of August. There is a lot of red tape and duties to complete on the first one. All I can say is I will have it sometime in 2006. With the heat and NiMH batteries maybe they are stalling to try and avoid the heat. http://www.twike.us/ Other pure EV news is about the SMART. They are now talking about their SMART car having a all electric option next year. In a small light vehicles that could be a winner. http://www.ntnu.no/gemini/2003-06e/9.htm In hybrids Toyota is now telling how they are going to provide plugin options. Toyota also said they will have E85 ability very soon on the Prius. The 2008 Prius with lithium batteries can get 94 mpg, have E85 and a plugin option. The Prius is the leader and continues to push the bar. Honda is making the new FIT with a hybrid option and say it will be the lowest cost hybrid on the market. http://www.hybridcars.com/honda-fit-hybrid.html Even GM is said to be testing plugin hybrid ideas. Their NiMH full size battery VUE will be out very soon. It is the first vehicle to use the famous NiMH batteries like the EV1 had. Could they also offer a plugin option ? They also say it will only cost about 2K more than a standard VUE. Maybe GM will try and jump ahead ??? WOW, lots of clean car news and pure EVs coming out everyday. www.evworld.com Jim Stack, 480-659-5513 ________________________________________________________________________ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today! --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger?s low PC-to-Phone call rates. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060801/5ee4b0e5/attachment.htm From wayne at xnar.com Tue Aug 1 16:16:21 2006 From: wayne at xnar.com (Wayne Murray) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:16:21 -0700 Subject: Fw: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming In-Reply-To: <062101c6b591$52014c60$6b01a8c0@JoClute> Message-ID: <20060801231625.VFEL12909.fed1rmmtao05.cox.net@Dell> I hate to bring up this question, but can someone tell me where electricity comes from and how it is created? Or do we just go blank after we disparage the Big greedy oil companies and the big greedy auto makers and the big greedy suv drivers? Just incase3 anyone is interested some of those big oil companies are investing there profits in renewable fuel, because they are about "energy" and not just oil. They are not stupid as to the future and where the profits lay. They are also investing in nanotechnology to reengineer oil to burn more completely so that it provides more energy per burn and would of course polute less. But if you take the profits from them to make movies that make you feel good and to get elected in to office on negativity then they can't do that. Take a moment to Goggle past the emotion on the internet and you will see that venture capital in alternative energy has increase 600% in just the past year. Have a little more of a positive attitude towards development instead of always trying to correct thorugh negativity and terror scare tactics. I bought a 16 seer A/C unit 4 years ago and it costs what a evap does to run. Jo is right just invest in the future don't just condem it to apocalyptic hopelessness.... The next time a developer wants to stack 60 living units on top of one another in a energy efficient highrise, that requires no copmmunte or pollution....look at what that says about the future and not try to focus on his profit for his attempts to save the planet and make a dime... the more he makes the more that kind of living will be offered. Sorry a little edgey today.I think I will take a few spins around the traffic circle.. W Perhaps we should talk to her about that fantasy electric energy. Think beyond the plug. _____ From: central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info [mailto:central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info] On Behalf Of Jo Clute Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:39 AM To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Subject: Re: Fw: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming I heard that is an awesome movie and I have read about it. But they are reappearing in different forms. some will stay like golf carts but not very functional. The EV1's were all leased no sold so when the lease ran out NO ONE was allowed to buy it or keep it or they were threatened with Grand theft auto. The thing about using an electric car is that it still uses electricity made with fossil fuels so having a private solar system is the only way that I would make it happen. politically speaking, Biodiesel gets rid of our dependency on foreign oil and that alone would reduce massive emissions just on transporting all that oil and its processing and distribution but the motors still have some emissions.. This is all new to me and I am on a mission to see what my silly life could take with a change like this and I am in construction! Thanks for the info :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: capt.jack12 at juno.com To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Fw: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming Jo, Was just told of a movie that is out in San Diego (and may be around here too), "Death of the Electric Car". It tells the saga of the EV1 which was the electric car that was essentially too good for the public and therefore killed by the oil company interests here in the US. If you see it playing around you should see it, just to see what should be on the market today, ________________________________________________________________________ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today! _____ _______________________________________________ --Note-- By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post to the central-city-discuss list. --Disclaimer-- The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060801/a8956db6/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 9207 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060801/a8956db6/attachment.jpg From tiffany at ampersands.net Tue Aug 1 17:12:30 2006 From: tiffany at ampersands.net (tiffany long) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:12:30 -0700 Subject: Turtles Message-ID: <20060802001235.NNGN12581.fed1rmmtao02.cox.net@PC1> We just had a turtle die last night. I don't know what from, and everybody else in the pond seems great. I have one turtle now and am afraid / ignorant of whether they get lonely or not. If any of you know anything about that, I'd appreciate some more turtle knowledge. I've been looking stuff up as it was dying, but apparently didn't find the right info in time and now I want to make sure the other doesn't suffer. I think it?s a boy western painted turtle. Tiffany Long Put Your Name On The Map... And Everything Else! WWW.AMPERSANDS.NET AmpersandS Design and Print House 1509 East Brill Phoenix, AZ 85006-2920 p/602-281-6238 f/602-281-6244 SAGE 22105 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: 7/31/2006 From Astir at earthlink.net Tue Aug 1 19:28:19 2006 From: Astir at earthlink.net (Astir) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:28:19 -0700 Subject: Fw: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming References: <20060801231625.VFEL12909.fed1rmmtao05.cox.net@Dell> Message-ID: <009601c6b5db$52653eb0$6a01a8c0@D80QDP51> I try to stay out of these discussions, but just wanted to make one observation. A big advantage of electric vehicles over fossil or even biomass fuel is that the emissions are centralized and often easier to deal with. ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Murray To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:16 PM Subject: RE: Fw: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming I hate to bring up this question, but can someone tell me where electricity comes from and how it is created? Or do we just go blank after we disparage the Big greedy oil companies and the big greedy auto makers and the big greedy suv drivers? Just incase3 anyone is interested some of those big oil companies are investing there profits in renewable fuel, because they are about "energy" and not just oil. They are not stupid as to the future and where the profits lay. They are also investing in nanotechnology to reengineer oil to burn more completely so that it provides more energy per burn and would of course polute less. But if you take the profits from them to make movies that make you feel good and to get elected in to office on negativity then they can't do that. Take a moment to Goggle past the emotion on the internet and you will see that venture capital in alternative energy has increase 600% in just the past year. Have a little more of a positive attitude towards development instead of always trying to correct thorugh negativity and terror scare tactics. I bought a 16 seer A/C unit 4 years ago and it costs what a evap does to run. Jo is right just invest in the future don't just condem it to apocalyptic hopelessness.... The next time a developer wants to stack 60 living units on top of one another in a energy efficient highrise, that requires no copmmunte or pollution....look at what that says about the future and not try to focus on his profit for his attempts to save the planet and make a dime... the more he makes the more that kind of living will be offered. Sorry a little edgey today.I think I will take a few spins around the traffic circle.. W Perhaps we should talk to her about that fantasy electric energy. Think beyond the plug. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info [mailto:central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info] On Behalf Of Jo Clute Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:39 AM To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Subject: Re: Fw: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming I heard that is an awesome movie and I have read about it. But they are reappearing in different forms. some will stay like golf carts but not very functional. The EV1's were all leased no sold so when the lease ran out NO ONE was allowed to buy it or keep it or they were threatened with Grand theft auto. The thing about using an electric car is that it still uses electricity made with fossil fuels so having a private solar system is the only way that I would make it happen. politically speaking, Biodiesel gets rid of our dependency on foreign oil and that alone would reduce massive emissions just on transporting all that oil and its processing and distribution but the motors still have some emissions.. This is all new to me and I am on a mission to see what my silly life could take with a change like this and I am in construction! Thanks for the info :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: capt.jack12 at juno.com To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Fw: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming Jo, Was just told of a movie that is out in San Diego (and may be around here too), "Death of the Electric Car". It tells the saga of the EV1 which was the electric car that was essentially too good for the public and therefore killed by the oil company interests here in the US. If you see it playing around you should see it, just to see what should be on the market today, ________________________________________________________________________ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ --Note-- By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post to the central-city-discuss list. --Disclaimer-- The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ --Note-- By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post to the central-city-discuss list. --Disclaimer-- The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060801/05d1c6fa/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 9207 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060801/05d1c6fa/attachment.jpg From wayne at xnar.com Tue Aug 1 20:40:42 2006 From: wayne at xnar.com (Wayne Murray) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:40:42 -0700 Subject: Few: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming In-Reply-To: <009601c6b5db$52653eb0$6a01a8c0@D80QDP51> Message-ID: <20060802034047.HKBT6303.fed1rmmtao09.cox.net@Dell> Good point. Efficient scrubbers on coal plants would be an example of that. Thank you for the observation. And point well taken. W _____ From: central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info [mailto:central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info] On Behalf Of Astir Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:28 PM To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Subject: Re: Fw: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming I try to stay out of these discussions, but just wanted to make one observation. A big advantage of electric vehicles over fossil or even biomass fuel is that the emissions are centralized and often easier to deal with. ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Murray To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:16 PM Subject: RE: Fw: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming I hate to bring up this question, but can someone tell me where electricity comes from and how it is created? Or do we just go blank after we disparage the Big greedy oil companies and the big greedy auto makers and the big greedy suv drivers? Just incase3 anyone is interested some of those big oil companies are investing there profits in renewable fuel, because they are about "energy" and not just oil. They are not stupid as to the future and where the profits lay. They are also investing in nanotechnology to reengineer oil to burn more completely so that it provides more energy per burn and would of course polute less. But if you take the profits from them to make movies that make you feel good and to get elected in to office on negativity then they can't do that. Take a moment to Goggle past the emotion on the internet and you will see that venture capital in alternative energy has increase 600% in just the past year. Have a little more of a positive attitude towards development instead of always trying to correct thorugh negativity and terror scare tactics. I bought a 16 seer A/C unit 4 years ago and it costs what a evap does to run. Jo is right just invest in the future don't just condem it to apocalyptic hopelessness.... The next time a developer wants to stack 60 living units on top of one another in a energy efficient highrise, that requires no copmmunte or pollution....look at what that says about the future and not try to focus on his profit for his attempts to save the planet and make a dime... the more he makes the more that kind of living will be offered. Sorry a little edgey today.I think I will take a few spins around the traffic circle.. W Perhaps we should talk to her about that fantasy electric energy. Think beyond the plug. _____ From: central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info [mailto:central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info] On Behalf Of Jo Clute Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:39 AM To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Subject: Re: Fw: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming I heard that is an awesome movie and I have read about it. But they are reappearing in different forms. some will stay like golf carts but not very functional. The EV1's were all leased no sold so when the lease ran out NO ONE was allowed to buy it or keep it or they were threatened with Grand theft auto. The thing about using an electric car is that it still uses electricity made with fossil fuels so having a private solar system is the only way that I would make it happen. politically speaking, Biodiesel gets rid of our dependency on foreign oil and that alone would reduce massive emissions just on transporting all that oil and its processing and distribution but the motors still have some emissions.. This is all new to me and I am on a mission to see what my silly life could take with a change like this and I am in construction! Thanks for the info :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: capt.jack12 at juno.com To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Fw: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming Jo, Was just told of a movie that is out in San Diego (and may be around here too), "Death of the Electric Car". It tells the saga of the EV1 which was the electric car that was essentially too good for the public and therefore killed by the oil company interests here in the US. If you see it playing around you should see it, just to see what should be on the market today, ________________________________________________________________________ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today! _____ _______________________________________________ --Note-- By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post to the central-city-discuss list. --Disclaimer-- The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list _____ _______________________________________________ --Note-- By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post to the central-city-discuss list. --Disclaimer-- The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060801/1c6763ad/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 9207 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060801/1c6763ad/attachment.jpg From jankyouverymuch at yahoo.com Tue Aug 1 23:24:09 2006 From: jankyouverymuch at yahoo.com (D A M O N) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Few: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming In-Reply-To: <20060802034047.HKBT6303.fed1rmmtao09.cox.net@Dell> Message-ID: <20060802062409.23765.qmail@web50012.mail.yahoo.com> I truly believe that big oil is investing in alternative fuels and that they are not stupid when it comes to their future profits. And I don't think that the emotion necessarily comes from the fact that they keep posting record profits and we, the consumer who tacitly agrees to buy their product for whatever price they choose, keep feeling a pinch in our pocketbook. For me the crankiness comes from that idea that we are very much on the verge of not being able to turn back the clock on a lot of the ecological mess that we've, and I say we because we consumers share responsibility with the big oil companies, made in the past 100 years. I'm not a scientist, and I'm not a psychic either, so maybe we'll come up with a magic potion that will somehow get us out of this mess, but what I find frustrating is that no matter what evidence science shows the world, I don't hear an echo of urgency from our leaders or our corporations. I'm sure it's more complicated than this, but I get the feeling that those record profits often get in the way of a genuine response to the crisis. What I would like to see is one of those old fashioned groundswells in our society that says "Hey, let's put a bunch of our eggs in this basket and become the world leader in alternative technology, that way the world has to come to us." We did it 60 years ago with military, automotives, finance and, can you believe it - entertainment. With government leadership and corporate complicity, America decided together to build the most powerful nation on earth and we did it - together. You can point the finger in many different directions, but the fact of the matter is that this country has become bitterly divided along many lines - political, economic, religious, racial, etc..., however the one thing we all have in common is that we all live on this planet - to my knowledge, barring a few of you I saw at the traffic circle Sunday night - we have no other planet to live on just yet. The environment and EVERY corporations, not just Big Oils, impact on it should be a uniting issue for us. Money, political theory, and scientific bias should not play a factor in our response, because we all will live with the consequences the same. (granted some will be able to afford better sunscreen, etc...but you get my point) That said - I would like to change the subject and ask why I haven't seen any pictures from the incredibly successful Traffic Circle Festival and Mel Gibson Public Drunkeness Vigil on Sunday posted here? Are they copyrighted? heh.... Damon --------------------------------- Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060801/a3c06ac9/attachment.htm From jankyouverymuch at yahoo.com Tue Aug 1 23:27:55 2006 From: jankyouverymuch at yahoo.com (D A M O N) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Turtles In-Reply-To: <20060802001235.NNGN12581.fed1rmmtao02.cox.net@PC1> Message-ID: <20060802062755.65963.qmail@web50013.mail.yahoo.com> Tiffany - have you tried Petsmart? I have a friend who works at their headquarters here, and I know that they have education programs to ensure that some employee somewhere in every market has education about every kind of pet. Whoever the "turtle person" is in our market might not be at your closest Petsmart, but theirs bound to be someone in Phoenix that knows about turtles. Try their website, or call their corporate HQ. If you don't have any luck, email me and I'll try to find someone through my friend. Damon --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060801/28053ece/attachment.htm From josepi at doitnow.com Wed Aug 2 00:41:27 2006 From: josepi at doitnow.com (Jo Clute) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:41:27 -0700 Subject: Few: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming References: <20060802062409.23765.qmail@web50012.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <009c01c6b607$25a4a010$6b01a8c0@JoClute> Turtles aside, I just want to know how we-individuals- create the urgent governmental echo. How much more scientific evidence is necessary to make the government scared to death of what has happened and is happening? To me, it just seems we can bicker about immigration, welfare, historic preservation, development, religion, and everything else all day long but in perspective if Mother Earth, is screaming "I told you sooooo" and pulling the seas and the coast lines out from under us where are we going to talk about all of this? and when? if our new American way of life has narrowed down to just triage and crisis response. Personally, I have all of this new information (new to me) and I really am floundering with what to do with it. The irony is that the oil companies are STILL spilling monumental amounts of oil into the ocean, especially during hurricanes when the platforms are devastated AND it is commonly known that these same oil companies are STILL researching new oil drilling techniques especially since most of the world's oil pockets have ALREADY hit their peak output. The drilling efficiencies are just about tapped, everything that will be expelled now is going to take even MORE energy to get, putting the platforms in more instable conditions creating more oil spills. This is what everyone is talking about when they say this problem is getting exponentially worse. And the technology already exists to take us off of oil consumption. Research and Developement might be a good thing in general, but its politics maintaining this mess and making it worse NOT our lack of current scientific capabilities. www.climatcrisis.org HELP BRING ABOUT CHANGE LOCALLY, NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY Your actions to reduce global warming can extend beyond how you personally reduce your own emissions. We all have influence on our schools, workplaces, businesses, and on society through how we make purchases, invest, take action, and vote. Here are some ways you can have a positive effect on global warming. Encourage your school or business to reduce emissions You can extend your positive influence on global warming well beyond your home by actively encouraging other to take action. Download our toolkits for schools and businesses to take action outside of your home. Join the virtual march The Stop Global Warming Virtual March is a non-political effort to bring all Americans concerned about global warming together in one place. Add your voice to the hundreds of thousands of other Americans urging action on this issue. Encourage the switch to renewable energy Successfully combating global warming requires a national transition to renewable energy sources such as solar, wind and biomass. These technologies are ready to be deployed more widely but there are regulatory barriers impeding them. Take action to break down those barriers with Vote Solar. Protect and conserve forest worldwide Forests play a critial role in global warming: they store carbon. When forests are burned or cut down, their stored carbon is release into the atmosphere -- deforestation now accounts for about 20% of carbon dioxide emissions each year. Conservation International has more information on forests and global warming. Consider the impact of your investments If you invest your money, you should consider the impact that your investments and savings will have on global warming. You can learn more about how to ensure your money is being invested in companies, products and projects that address issues related to climate change here and here. Make your city cool Cities and states around the country have taken action to stop global warming by passing innovative transportation and energy saving legislation. 194 cities nationwide representing over 40 million people have made this pledge as part of the U.S. Mayors Climate Protection Agreement. Find out how to make your city a cool city. Tell Congress to act The McCain Lieberman Climate Stewardship and Innovation Act would set a firm limit on carbon dioxide emissions and then use free market incentives to lower costs, promote efficiency and spur innovation. Tell your representative to support it. Make sure your voice is heard! We must have a stronger commitment from our government in order to stop global warming and implement solutions and such a commitment won't come without a dramatic increase in citizen lobbying for new laws with teeth. Get the facts about U.S. politicians and candidates at Project Vote Smart and The League of Conservation Voters. Make sure your voice is heard by voting! ----- Original Message ----- From: D A M O N To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:24 PM Subject: RE: Few: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming I truly believe that big oil is investing in alternative fuels and that they are not stupid when it comes to their future profits. And I don't think that the emotion necessarily comes from the fact that they keep posting record profits and we, the consumer who tacitly agrees to buy their product for whatever price they choose, keep feeling a pinch in our pocketbook. For me the crankiness comes from that idea that we are very much on the verge of not being able to turn back the clock on a lot of the ecological mess that we've, and I say we because we consumers share responsibility with the big oil companies, made in the past 100 years. I'm not a scientist, and I'm not a psychic either, so maybe we'll come up with a magic potion that will somehow get us out of this mess, but what I find frustrating is that no matter what evidence science shows the world, I don't hear an echo of urgency from our leaders or our corporations. I'm sure it's more complicated than this, but I get the feeling that those record profits often get in the way of a genuine response to the crisis. What I would like to see is one of those old fashioned groundswells in our society that says "Hey, let's put a bunch of our eggs in this basket and become the world leader in alternative technology, that way the world has to come to us." We did it 60 years ago with military, automotives, finance and, can you believe it - entertainment. With government leadership and corporate complicity, America decided together to build the most powerful nation on earth and we did it - together. You can point the finger in many different directions, but the fact of the matter is that this country has become bitterly divided along many lines - political, economic, religious, racial, etc..., however the one thing we all have in common is that we all live on this planet - to my knowledge, barring a few of you I saw at the traffic circle Sunday night - we have no other planet to live on just yet. The environment and EVERY corporations, not just Big Oils, impact on it should be a uniting issue for us. Money, political theory, and scientific bias should not play a factor in our response, because we all will live with the consequences the same. (granted some will be able to afford better sunscreen, etc...but you get my point) That said - I would like to change the subject and ask why I haven't seen any pictures from the incredibly successful Traffic Circle Festival and Mel Gibson Public Drunkeness Vigil on Sunday posted here? Are they copyrighted? heh.... Damon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Groups are talking. We?re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ --Note-- By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post to the central-city-discuss list. --Disclaimer-- The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060802/44bc8029/attachment.htm From wayne at xnar.com Wed Aug 2 08:17:39 2006 From: wayne at xnar.com (Wayne Murray) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:17:39 -0700 Subject: Few: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming In-Reply-To: <20060802062409.23765.qmail@web50012.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060802151743.LVEH6303.fed1rmmtao09.cox.net@Dell> Sorry I have been on the phone trying to fine out why the ?mother ship? did not beam us up as we waited in the circle the other night as requested by them. Pictures and Short Video to follow. Attempting to advantage the publicity to get change. PS all the items that you mentioned the US became leaders in as a result of business freedoms, and consumer demand, the right direction. The item of military is the only one that we became a leader in as a result of governmental leadership, at the exclusion of citizen or consumer demand. _____ From: central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info [mailto:central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info] On Behalf Of D A M O N Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:24 PM To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Subject: RE: Few: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming I truly believe that big oil is investing in alternative fuels and that they are not stupid when it comes to their future profits. And I don't think that the emotion necessarily comes from the fact that they keep posting record profits and we, the consumer who tacitly agrees to buy their product for whatever price they choose, keep feeling a pinch in our pocketbook. For me the crankiness comes from that idea that we are very much on the verge of not being able to turn back the clock on a lot of the ecological mess that we've, and I say we because we consumers share responsibility with the big oil companies, made in the past 100 years. I'm not a scientist, and I'm not a psychic either, so maybe we'll come up with a magic potion that will somehow get us out of this mess, but what I find frustrating is that no matter what evidence science shows the world, I don't hear an echo of urgency from our leaders or our corporations. I'm sure it's more complicated than this, but I get the feeling that those record profits often get in the way of a genuine response to the crisis. What I would like to see is one of those old fashioned groundswells in our society that says "Hey, let's put a bunch of our eggs in this basket and become the world leader in alternative technology, that way the world has to come to us." We did it 60 years ago with military, automotives, finance and, can you believe it - entertainment. With government leadership and corporate complicity, America decided together to build the most powerful nation on earth and we did it - together. You can point the finger in many different directions, but the fact of the matter is that this country has become bitterly divided along many lines - political, economic, religious, racial, etc..., however the one thing we all have in common is that we all live on this planet - to my knowledge, barring a few of you I saw at the traffic circle Sunday night - we have no other planet to live on just yet. The environment and EVERY corporations, not just Big Oils, impact on it should be a uniting issue for us. Money, political theory, and scientific bias should not play a factor in our response, because we all will live with the consequences the same. (granted some will be able to afford better sunscreen, etc...but you get my point) That said - I would like to change the subject and ask why I haven't seen any pictures from the incredibly successful Traffic Circle Festival and Mel Gibson Public Drunkeness Vigil on Sunday posted here? Are they copyrighted? heh.... Damon _____ Groups are talking. We?re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060802/b82b9dae/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 22419 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060802/b82b9dae/attachment.jpg From wayne at xnar.com Wed Aug 2 08:25:22 2006 From: wayne at xnar.com (Wayne Murray) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:25:22 -0700 Subject: Coronado Pipes relocated Message-ID: <20060802152526.WOEA1537.fed1rmmtao07.cox.net@Dell> A trailer to "mission impossible relocated" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060802/61c1c082/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 149206 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060802/61c1c082/attachment.jpg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 150637 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060802/61c1c082/attachment-0001.jpg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 106904 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060802/61c1c082/attachment-0002.jpg From maureenrooney at earthlink.net Wed Aug 2 08:36:15 2006 From: maureenrooney at earthlink.net (Maureen Rooney) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:36:15 -0700 Subject: In case you missed Sunday's traffic circle festival Message-ID: <411-22006832153615859@earthlink.net> Great neighbors, icy cold beer, a bit of effort relocating the "Pipes" from the circle to the Sunshine Market, conversations with drivers going round the circle, paper bags with tea-lights (what the heck are they called?) as the sun set. Alas, no traffic engineers or city staff joined us... Join us at the GCNA general meeting this Thursday at 7pm (Emerson School, Palm & 10th) so we can continue the "art" conversation. Maybe Wayne's video spectacular will premier there... Popcorn anyone? ----- Original Message ----- From: D A M O N To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Sent: 8/1/2006 11:25:10 PM Subject: RE: Few: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming I truly believe that big oil is investing in alternative fuels and that they are not stupid when it comes to their future profits. And I don't think that the emotion necessarily comes from the fact that they keep posting record profits and we, the consumer who tacitly agrees to buy their product for whatever price they choose, keep feeling a pinch in our pocketbook. For me the crankiness comes from that idea that we are very much on the verge of not being able to turn back the clock on a lot of the ecological mess that we've, and I say we because we consumers share responsibility with the big oil companies, made in the past 100 years. I'm not a scientist, and I'm not a psychic either, so maybe we'll come up with a magic potion that will somehow get us out of this mess, but what I find frustrating is that no matter what evidence science shows the world, I don't hear an echo of urgency from our leaders or our corporations. I'm sure it's more complicated than this, but I get the feeling that those record profits often get in the way of a genuine response to the crisis. What I would like to see is one of those old fashioned groundswells in our society that says "Hey, let's put a bunch of our eggs in this basket and become the world leader in alternative technology, that way the world has to come to us." We did it 60 years ago with military, automotives, finance and, can you believe it - entertainment. With government leadership and corporate complicity, America decided together to build the most powerful nation on earth and we did it - together. You can point the finger in many different directions, but the fact of the matter is that this country has become bitterly divided along many lines - political, economic, religious, racial, etc..., however the one thing we all have in common is that we all live on this planet - to my knowledge, barring a few of you I saw at the traffic circle Sunday night - we have no other planet to live on just yet. The environment and EVERY corporations, not just Big Oils, impact on it should be a uniting issue for us. Money, political theory, and scientific bias should not play a factor in our response, because we all will live with the consequences the same. (granted some will be able to afford better sunscreen, etc...but you get my point) That said - I would like to change the subject and ask why I haven't seen any pictures from the incredibly successful Traffic Circle Festival and Mel Gibson Public Drunkeness Vigil on Sunday posted here? Are they copyrighted? heh.... Damon Groups are talking. We?re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060802/40811693/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 20069 bytes Desc: Guerrillas.jpg Url : /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060802/40811693/attachment.jpg From tjvick at cox.net Wed Aug 2 08:49:43 2006 From: tjvick at cox.net (tjvick at cox.net) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 8:49:43 -0700 Subject: In case you missed Sunday's traffic circle festival Message-ID: <22668880.1154533783284.JavaMail.root@fed1wml04.mgt.cox.net> It's a sad day when our only attempt at neighborhood art gets dismantled and relocated. I think next we should have ostrich feathers pasted on orange traffic cones stacked in a pyramid shape. BTW -They are called luminaries(the tea lighty things) ---- Maureen Rooney wrote: ============= Great neighbors, icy cold beer, a bit of effort relocating the "Pipes" from the circle to the Sunshine Market, conversations with drivers going round the circle, paper bags with tea-lights (what the heck are they called?) as the sun set. Alas, no traffic engineers or city staff joined us... Join us at the GCNA general meeting this Thursday at 7pm (Emerson School, Palm & 10th) so we can continue the "art" conversation. Maybe Wayne's video spectacular will premier there... Popcorn anyone? ----- Original Message ----- From: D A M O N To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Sent: 8/1/2006 11:25:10 PM Subject: RE: Few: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming I truly believe that big oil is investing in alternative fuels and that they are not stupid when it comes to their future profits. And I don't think that the emotion necessarily comes from the fact that they keep posting record profits and we, the consumer who tacitly agrees to buy their product for whatever price they choose, keep feeling a pinch in our pocketbook. For me the crankiness comes from that idea that we are very much on the verge of not being able to turn back the clock on a lot of the ecological mess that we've, and I say we because we consumers share responsibility with the big oil companies, made in the past 100 years. I'm not a scientist, and I'm not a psychic either, so maybe we'll come up with a magic potion that will somehow get us out of this mess, but what I find frustrating is that no matter what evidence science shows the world, I don't hear an echo of urgency from our leaders or our corporations. I'm sure it's more complicated than this, but I get the feeling that those record profits often get in the way of a genuine response to the crisis. What I would like to see is one of those old fashioned groundswells in our society that says "Hey, let's put a bunch of our eggs in this basket and become the world leader in alternative technology, that way the world has to come to us." We did it 60 years ago with military, automotives, finance and, can you believe it - entertainment. With government leadership and corporate complicity, America decided together to build the most powerful nation on earth and we did it - together. You can point the finger in many different directions, but the fact of the matter is that this country has become bitterly divided along many lines - political, economic, religious, racial, etc..., however the one thing we all have in common is that we all live on this planet - to my knowledge, barring a few of you I saw at the traffic circle Sunday night - we have no other planet to live on just yet. The environment and EVERY corporations, not just Big Oils, impact on it should be a uniting issue for us. Money, political theory, and scientific bias should not play a factor in our response, because we all will live with the consequences the same. (granted some will be able to afford better sunscreen, etc...but you get my point) That said - I would like to change the subject and ask why I haven't seen any pictures from the incredibly successful Traffic Circle Festival and Mel Gibson Public Drunkeness Vigil on Sunday posted here? Are they copyrighted? heh.... Damon Groups are talking. We?re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. -- Kindness matters From steve at maps4u.com Wed Aug 2 08:47:16 2006 From: steve at maps4u.com (Stephen Procaccini) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:47:16 -0700 Subject: In case you missed Sunday's traffic circle festival In-Reply-To: <411-22006832153615859@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001d01c6b64a$ee702580$7101a8c0@regx> Luminarias I believe they are called. sorry I missed this event. steve. This message was checked by MailScan for WorkgroupMail. www.workgroupmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060802/d478c13c/attachment.htm From andrea.delgaldo at highstream.net Wed Aug 2 14:18:25 2006 From: andrea.delgaldo at highstream.net (andrea.delgaldo at highstream.net) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:18:25 -0400 Subject: In case you missed Sunday's traffic circle festival In-Reply-To: <22668880.1154533783284.JavaMail.root@fed1wml04.mgt.cox.net> References: <22668880.1154533783284.JavaMail.root@fed1wml04.mgt.cox.net> Message-ID: <1154553505.44d116a12b8a2@webmail.highstream.net> Actually, I wonder if we can't have a "temporary" art program once the circle is finished. We certainly met a lot of new neighbors as they drove around the circle, curious about all the activity. Perhaps we can have a joint program and fund raiser for the 'hood... Quoting tjvick at cox.net: > It's a sad day when our only attempt at neighborhood art > gets dismantled and relocated. > I think next we should have ostrich feathers pasted on > orange traffic cones stacked in a pyramid shape. > > BTW -They are called luminaries(the tea lighty things) > > ---- Maureen Rooney wrote: > > ============= > Great neighbors, icy cold beer, a bit of effort relocating the "Pipes" from > the circle to the Sunshine Market, conversations with drivers going round the > circle, paper bags with tea-lights (what the heck are they called?) as the > sun set. Alas, no traffic engineers or city staff joined us... > > Join us at the GCNA general meeting this Thursday at 7pm (Emerson School, > Palm & 10th) so we can continue the "art" conversation. Maybe Wayne's video > spectacular will premier there... Popcorn anyone? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: D A M O N > To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info > Sent: 8/1/2006 11:25:10 PM > Subject: RE: Few: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming > > > I truly believe that big oil is investing in alternative fuels and that they > are not stupid when it comes to their future profits. And I don't think that > the emotion necessarily comes from the fact that they keep posting record > profits and we, the consumer who tacitly agrees to buy their product for > whatever price they choose, keep feeling a pinch in our pocketbook. For me > the crankiness comes from that idea that we are very much on the verge of not > being able to turn back the clock on a lot of the ecological mess that we've, > and I say we because we consumers share responsibility with the big oil > companies, made in the past 100 years. I'm not a scientist, and I'm not a > psychic either, so maybe we'll come up with a magic potion that will somehow > get us out of this mess, but what I find frustrating is that no matter what > evidence science shows the world, I don't hear an echo of urgency from our > leaders or our corporations. I'm sure it's more complicated than this, but I > get the feeling that those record profits often get in the way of a genuine > response to the crisis. > What I would like to see is one of those old fashioned groundswells in our > society that says "Hey, let's put a bunch of our eggs in this basket and > become the world leader in alternative technology, that way the world has to > come to us." We did it 60 years ago with military, automotives, finance and, > can you believe it - entertainment. With government leadership and corporate > complicity, America decided together to build the most powerful nation on > earth and we did it - together. You can point the finger in many different > directions, but the fact of the matter is that this country has become > bitterly divided along many lines - political, economic, religious, racial, > etc..., however the one thing we all have in common is that we all live on > this planet - to my knowledge, barring a few of you I saw at the traffic > circle Sunday night - we have no other planet to live on just yet. The > environment and EVERY corporations, not just Big Oils, impact on it should be > a uniting issue for us. Money, political theory, and scientific bias should > not play a factor in our response, because we all will live with the > consequences the same. (granted some will be able to afford better > sunscreen, etc...but you get my point) > That said - I would like to change the subject and ask why I haven't seen any > pictures from the incredibly successful Traffic Circle Festival and Mel > Gibson Public Drunkeness Vigil on Sunday posted here? Are they copyrighted? > heh.... > Damon > > > Groups are talking. We??re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! > Groups. > -- > Kindness matters > > > _______________________________________________ > --Note-- > By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. > Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post > to the central-city-discuss list. > > --Disclaimer-- > The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official > position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail > list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or > editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. > > To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list From wayne at xnar.com Wed Aug 2 14:42:04 2006 From: wayne at xnar.com (Wayne Murray) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:42:04 -0700 Subject: In case you missed Sunday's traffic circle festival In-Reply-To: <1154553505.44d116a12b8a2@webmail.highstream.net> Message-ID: <20060802214207.QIKV25430.fed1rmmtao12.cox.net@Dell> "The light does not die" I will bring the screwdriver http://www.kubrick2001.com/ -----Original Message----- From: central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info [mailto:central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info] On Behalf Of andrea.delgaldo at highstream.net Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:18 PM To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Subject: Re: In case you missed Sunday's traffic circle festival Actually, I wonder if we can't have a "temporary" art program once the circle is finished. We certainly met a lot of new neighbors as they drove around the circle, curious about all the activity. Perhaps we can have a joint program and fund raiser for the 'hood... Quoting tjvick at cox.net: > It's a sad day when our only attempt at neighborhood art > gets dismantled and relocated. > I think next we should have ostrich feathers pasted on > orange traffic cones stacked in a pyramid shape. > > BTW -They are called luminaries(the tea lighty things) > > ---- Maureen Rooney wrote: > > ============= > Great neighbors, icy cold beer, a bit of effort relocating the "Pipes" from > the circle to the Sunshine Market, conversations with drivers going round the > circle, paper bags with tea-lights (what the heck are they called?) as the > sun set. Alas, no traffic engineers or city staff joined us... > > Join us at the GCNA general meeting this Thursday at 7pm (Emerson School, > Palm & 10th) so we can continue the "art" conversation. Maybe Wayne's video > spectacular will premier there... Popcorn anyone? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: D A M O N > To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info > Sent: 8/1/2006 11:25:10 PM > Subject: RE: Few: CBS News Article regarding Global Warming > > > I truly believe that big oil is investing in alternative fuels and that they > are not stupid when it comes to their future profits. And I don't think that > the emotion necessarily comes from the fact that they keep posting record > profits and we, the consumer who tacitly agrees to buy their product for > whatever price they choose, keep feeling a pinch in our pocketbook. For me > the crankiness comes from that idea that we are very much on the verge of not > being able to turn back the clock on a lot of the ecological mess that we've, > and I say we because we consumers share responsibility with the big oil > companies, made in the past 100 years. I'm not a scientist, and I'm not a > psychic either, so maybe we'll come up with a magic potion that will somehow > get us out of this mess, but what I find frustrating is that no matter what > evidence science shows the world, I don't hear an echo of urgency from our > leaders or our corporations. I'm sure it's more complicated than this, but I > get the feeling that those record profits often get in the way of a genuine > response to the crisis. > What I would like to see is one of those old fashioned groundswells in our > society that says "Hey, let's put a bunch of our eggs in this basket and > become the world leader in alternative technology, that way the world has to > come to us." We did it 60 years ago with military, automotives, finance and, > can you believe it - entertainment. With government leadership and corporate > complicity, America decided together to build the most powerful nation on > earth and we did it - together. You can point the finger in many different > directions, but the fact of the matter is that this country has become > bitterly divided along many lines - political, economic, religious, racial, > etc..., however the one thing we all have in common is that we all live on > this planet - to my knowledge, barring a few of you I saw at the traffic > circle Sunday night - we have no other planet to live on just yet. The > environment and EVERY corporations, not just Big Oils, impact on it should be > a uniting issue for us. Money, political theory, and scientific bias should > not play a factor in our response, because we all will live with the > consequences the same. (granted some will be able to afford better > sunscreen, etc...but you get my point) > That said - I would like to change the subject and ask why I haven't seen any > pictures from the incredibly successful Traffic Circle Festival and Mel > Gibson Public Drunkeness Vigil on Sunday posted here? Are they copyrighted? > heh.... > Damon > > > Groups are talking. We??re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! > Groups. > -- > Kindness matters > > > _______________________________________________ > --Note-- > By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. > Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post > to the central-city-discuss list. > > --Disclaimer-- > The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official > position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail > list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or > editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. > > To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list _______________________________________________ --Note-- By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post to the central-city-discuss list. --Disclaimer-- The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060802/a4f0d5e0/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 11860 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060802/a4f0d5e0/attachment.jpg From mjfritz at cox.net Wed Aug 2 19:33:24 2006 From: mjfritz at cox.net (mjfritz) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:33:24 -0700 Subject: Coronado Pipes relocated References: <20060802152526.WOEA1537.fed1rmmtao07.cox.net@Dell> Message-ID: <007801c6b6a5$3200a540$cd31b046@Matthew> That last picture kills me... I love the fact that everyone is standing around, with cold beverage in hand, watching that single poor soul on a ladder, wrestle a giant metal tube. Classic!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Murray To: Gcna-Members Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 8:25 AM Subject: Coronado Pipes relocated A trailer to "mission impossible relocated" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ --Note-- By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post to the central-city-discuss list. --Disclaimer-- The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060802/67f1941d/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 149206 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060802/67f1941d/attachment.jpg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 150637 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060802/67f1941d/attachment-0001.jpg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 106904 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060802/67f1941d/attachment-0002.jpg From hazey_marie at hotmail.com Thu Aug 3 06:04:55 2006 From: hazey_marie at hotmail.com (Ivana Olson) Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:04:55 -0700 Subject: Something to do this weekend Message-ID: If you're looking for something to do this weekend, the 4th Annual Bowl-A-Rama is this Saturday. The Bowl-a-Rama is a fundraiser event sponsored by Pets911 and benefiting around 60 different local animal welfare organizations. Each organization is providing a bowling team who will bowl for them. Each bowler is collecting pledges based on pinfall, proceeds to benefit their organization. There will be plenty to do and it promises to be a lot of fun, so if you're looking to get out this weekend this would be a perfect oppurtunity! I plan to attend in support of AzCATs (www.azcats.org). They will be having a 'decorate a pin' contest where for $15 you can decorate a bowling pin which will be entered into a contest for best decorated. They're also having a cat photo contest where for $15 you can enter a photo of your cat. Prizes will be awarded for both contests and if your photo wins your kitty will be featured on the AzCATS website for all to see. Even if you choose not to support AzCATS there are several other animal organizations to chose from. So come check it out! SATURDAY AUGUST 5, 2006 10:00am to 5:00pm AMF SHEA VILLAGE LANES 10870 N. 32nd Street, (1/4 mile N of Shea), Phoenix From ktoneal at cox.net Thu Aug 3 09:44:08 2006 From: ktoneal at cox.net (ktoneal at cox.net) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 9:44:08 -0700 Subject: Support Our Troops Message-ID: <27076401.1154623448490.JavaMail.root@fed1wml12.mgt.cox.net> Hi everyone! I am sending out a beautiful picture that I copied from anysoldier.com of some children in Afghanistan that were recently visited by our soldiers. The letters that I read accompanying the picture are from a soldier involved in a medical/humanitarian mission. The missions are conducted by our soldiers and a couple of doctors and dentists that visit schools in local villages. This is the stuff that never makes it to the American newpapers or television stations. The soldier added in his comments that only about half of the children had shoes and with winter not too far away he was very concerned. He has asked for cheap childrens tennis shoes no more than $7.00 a pair. Our troops are truly amazing! We should be very proud of them and do our part to help. If you have not yet visited anysoldier.com I would ask again that you do. If you would like to help with the shoe drive, or any other items for the kids like school supplies and toys, e-mail me privately and I will give you his name and the address to send them. And to think just a few years ago these beautiful girls were not even allowed an education. Thanks to our fabulous country the world is a better place. http://anysoldier.com/ KT -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SheldonAChatman3.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 31645 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060803/e1f13157/attachment.jpg From president at gcna.info Thu Aug 3 22:22:24 2006 From: president at gcna.info (GCNA President) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:22:24 -0700 Subject: candidates Message-ID: <007901c6b785$f8161d10$0a00a8c0@TVS> Howdy all: A candidate for the legislature dropped by our meeting tonight, and took a few minutes at the end of the announcements portion of the meeting to let us know his positions and why he is running. I did ask him to not solicit donations in the meeting, as that seemed to me somehow inappropriate to the nature of our association, and he obliged by taking that portion outside. If you know of any candidates running for any office who might wish to take a very few minutes to do the same, I would be happy to accommodate them in the same manner at any of our meetings. If it's possible to know in advance so as to prepare for any deluge of democracy, that would be best, but if not, we'll fit 'em in. Thanks much, Tyler -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060803/27a5f344/attachment.htm From wayne at xnar.com Fri Aug 4 08:05:31 2006 From: wayne at xnar.com (Wayne Murray) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:05:31 -0700 Subject: Free Goldfish Message-ID: <20060804150535.TGEK27857.fed1rmmtao08.cox.net@Dell> I have a large fan tail gold fish in a 8 gallon tank. Free to a better home than I am able to provide. Tank, food, and fish.... You can rename he as you wish she never listened to me. W -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060804/03c09f8d/attachment.htm From artbynoah at excite.com Fri Aug 4 08:42:29 2006 From: artbynoah at excite.com (Noah) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:42:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Free Goldfish Message-ID: <20060804154229.867B08A246@xprdmxin.myway.com> Wayne,Hey this is Noah I will take it!!! If anyone hasn't already!Noah--- On Fri 08/04, Wayne Murray < wayne at xnar.com > wrote:From: Wayne Murray [mailto: wayne at xnar.com]To: central-city-discuss at gcna.infoDate: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:05:31 -0700Subject: Free Goldfish I have a large fan tail gold fish in a 8 gallon tank. Free to a better home than I am able to provide. Tank, food, and fish??.. You can rename he as you wish she never listened to me. W_______________________________________________--Note--By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list.Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to postto the central-city-discuss list.--Disclaimer-- The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the officialposition of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-maillist is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, oreditorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060804/fb0a0a98/attachment.htm From maureenrooney at earthlink.net Fri Aug 4 09:05:25 2006 From: maureenrooney at earthlink.net (Maureen Rooney) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:05:25 -0700 Subject: 12th Oak circle progress/closings Message-ID: <410-2200685416525531@earthlink.net> The pavement is finally in, but more road closures are coming next week while the landscaping goes in. A notice from ACS: Beginning Monday, August 7, the intersection of 12th and Oak Streets will be closed from 8:00 am and reopened at 4:00pm each workday so the contractor can install new landscaping. The daily closures will take place through Friday, August 11. During the closure, 7th and 16th Streets may be used as alternate routes. Access for residents, businesses and emergency vehicles will be maintained at all times. Call ACS's 24-hour construction hotline with questions: 602.956.2670 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060804/6ae9103d/attachment.htm From ktoneal at cox.net Fri Aug 4 15:24:12 2006 From: ktoneal at cox.net (ktoneal at cox.net) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:24:12 -0700 Subject: The Dash! Message-ID: <30047554.1154730252885.JavaMail.root@fed1wml12.mgt.cox.net> I thought this was nice. Hope you like it! KT > > > http://www.thedashmovie.com > > > From wayne at xnar.com Fri Aug 4 16:07:23 2006 From: wayne at xnar.com (Wayne Murray) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:07:23 -0700 Subject: 1-BD House rental Message-ID: <20060804230652.RXNW12909.fed1rmmtao05.cox.net@Dell> One bedroom, small cottage type house on large corner lot with several other houses. Common laundry and patio area. We do not accept pets. 412 North 11th street, $525. tenant pays utilities. Available September 1, 2006, Occupied so do not disturb tenant. Call W at 602-258-2605 cell 602-616-4546 Or Mike at 602-256-0347 cell 602-319-8609 W Photos below: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060804/3c1cbe89/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 15087 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060804/3c1cbe89/attachment.jpg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 18189 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060804/3c1cbe89/attachment-0001.jpg From macalpines at yahoo.com Sat Aug 5 08:27:06 2006 From: macalpines at yahoo.com (macalpines restaurant/soda fou) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 08:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Looking for two bedroom rental in Coronado. Message-ID: <20060805152706.56887.qmail@web51901.mail.yahoo.com> I have a friend looking for a two bedroom rental in Coronado. She is a college graduate who works full-time for a local university, as well as part-time at MacAlpine's. She loves vintage and historic homes and would love to rent one (to be shared with her declawed cat and possibly one friend.) If anyone has anything, please contact Amanda at jitterbugdoll at yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060805/2e815f93/attachment.htm From rjayc40 at mindspring.com Sat Aug 5 08:58:18 2006 From: rjayc40 at mindspring.com (Richard Carr) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 08:58:18 -0700 Subject: 12th Oak circle progress/closings Message-ID: <410-22006865155818495@mindspring.com> I noticed that the pigs in the neighborhood have already begun to use the traffic circle as their garbage pail. I am just wondering whose responsibility it is to clean it up. Will the city be cleaning it up as it overflows with beer bottles, cans, pampers and other garbage? Or will it just overflow with the garbage that these scumbags throw all over the neighborhood? ----- Original Message ----- From: Maureen Rooney To: central-city-discuss Sent: 8/4/2006 9:07:05 AM Subject: 12th Oak circle progress/closings The pavement is finally in, but more road closures are coming next week while the landscaping goes in. A notice from ACS: Beginning Monday, August 7, the intersection of 12th and Oak Streets will be closed from 8:00 am and reopened at 4:00pm each workday so the contractor can install new landscaping. The daily closures will take place through Friday, August 11. During the closure, 7th and 16th Streets may be used as alternate routes. Access for residents, businesses and emergency vehicles will be maintained at all times. Call ACS's 24-hour construction hotline with questions: 602.956.2670 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060805/ff5bd6e8/attachment.htm From president at gcna.info Sat Aug 5 09:26:47 2006 From: president at gcna.info (GCNA President) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 09:26:47 -0700 Subject: 12th Oak circle garbage In-Reply-To: <410-22006865155818495@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <001201c6b8ab$f2db1400$0a00a8c0@TVS> Richard, I suspect each of us individually is responsible for cleaning up our own little part of the neighborhood, whether it be the traffic circle or the curb in front of one's house. A good part of the idea behind neighborhood beautification is to send the message to the various and sundry "scumbags" that we don't tolerate their destructive behavior. A piece of litter or area of graffiti left in place sends the message that we don't care and that bad behavior is OK with us. Cleaning things up lets them know that it's not. It's like dogs taking turns peeing on the same tree. If you see someone littering from a car, you can report them to Arizona Clean and Beautiful. You need the date, location, item littered, vehicle description and license number, and a description of the item littered. Call 602-712-4683 to report them. It's a pain, but it's something you can do. Visit their web site at http://www.arizonacleanandbeautiful.org/ for more information. You might also consider getting together a couple of neighbors, some heavy gloves and some garbage bags, and heading out to clean things up on your block, or even the next one over. If your neighbors see you take an interest, they will too, out of guilt if nothing else. It's not right that others litter or deface our neighborhood. It's not fair that we have to work to clean up after them. But if we want things to change, no-one is going to do it for us. Thanks much, Tyler _____ From: Richard Carr [mailto:rjayc40 at mindspring.com] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 8:58 AM To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Subject: RE: 12th Oak circle progress/closings I noticed that the pigs in the neighborhood have already begun to use the traffic circle as their garbage pail. I am just wondering whose responsibility it is to clean it up. Will the city be cleaning it up as it overflows with beer bottles, cans, pampers and other garbage? Or will it just overflow with the garbage that these scumbags throw all over the neighborhood? ----- Original Message ----- From: Maureen Rooney To: central-city-discuss Sent: 8/4/2006 9:07:05 AM Subject: 12th Oak circle progress/closings The pavement is finally in, but more road closures are coming next week while the landscaping goes in. A notice from ACS: Beginning Monday, August 7, the intersection of 12th and Oak Streets will be closed from 8:00 am and reopened at 4:00pm each workday so the contractor can install new landscaping. The daily closures will take place through Friday, August 11. During the closure, 7th and 16th Streets may be used as alternate routes. Access for residents, businesses and emergency vehicles will be maintained at all times. Call ACS's 24-hour construction hotline with questions: 602.956.2670 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060805/43b39214/attachment.htm From jenniferfierro at cox.net Sat Aug 5 10:03:04 2006 From: jenniferfierro at cox.net (Jennifer Downing) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 10:03:04 -0700 Subject: Looking for two bedroom rental in Coronado. Message-ID: <21743195.1154797384407.JavaMail.root@fed1wml05.mgt.cox.net> there's a house on the other corner from me....I live on 15th and virginia, and it's pretty cute....it's on the south east corner From hazey_marie at hotmail.com Sat Aug 5 13:16:34 2006 From: hazey_marie at hotmail.com (Ivana Olson) Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:16:34 -0700 Subject: 12th Oak circle garbage Message-ID: I drive by the circle quite often, since it's between my house and my sisters. I wouldn't mind keeping an eye out for trash and stopping to pick it up when I see it. When my neighbors from across the street have their parties (at least 2 saturdays a month, mind you) they always throw beer bottles and trash in my yard and in the street between our houses. So I've pretty much gotten in the habit of picking up my neighbors messes already. From hazey_marie at hotmail.com Sat Aug 5 13:21:21 2006 From: hazey_marie at hotmail.com (Ivana Olson) Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:21:21 -0700 Subject: Also looking for two bedroom rental in Coronado. Message-ID: While we're mentioning it, my friend and her family (fianc? and 2 young kids) are looking for a house to rent in Coronado as well. She'd like it to be at least 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms is best but not completely necessary. A/C instead of evap is a must and she has 1 dog and 2 cats to bring with her. -Ivana From ktoneal at cox.net Sat Aug 5 13:34:53 2006 From: ktoneal at cox.net (ktoneal at cox.net) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:34:53 -0700 Subject: 12th Oak circle garbage Message-ID: <7497885.1154810093577.JavaMail.root@fed1wml12.mgt.cox.net> Ivana, I sure wish more people had that attitude. Tyler stated it well by saying that it may not be fair that we pick up someone else's mess but if we care it must be done. Kudo's to you for recognizing that fact!!!! Also, Tyler, thanks for the phone number to report the litterbugs. I heard the state had started a campaign to clean up our state but I didn't know the phone number to report violations. KT ---- Ivana Olson wrote: > I drive by the circle quite often, since it's between my house and my > sisters. I wouldn't mind keeping an eye out for trash and stopping to pick > it up when I see it. > > When my neighbors from across the street have their parties (at least 2 > saturdays a month, mind you) they always throw beer bottles and trash in my > yard and in the street between our houses. So I've pretty much gotten in the > habit of picking up my neighbors messes already. > > > > _______________________________________________ > --Note-- > By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. > Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post > to the central-city-discuss list. > > --Disclaimer-- > The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official > position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail > list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or > editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. > > To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list From donmertes1 at cox.net Sat Aug 5 13:50:01 2006 From: donmertes1 at cox.net (Don Mertes) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:50:01 -0700 Subject: RE- Also looking for two bedroom rental in Coronado. Message-ID: <20060805205011.OSYE1537.fed1rmmtao07.cox.net@D9HRH071> Hi All, If anyone is interested, we do have this home available for rent at $1200/month plus utilities. Click the link below and email me privately for more details or to see it !! Buyer Full Page :) Don -----Original Message----- From: central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info [ mailto:central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info] On Behalf Of Ivana Olson Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 1:21 PM To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Subject: Also looking for two bedroom rental in Coronado. While we're mentioning it, my friend and her family (fianci and 2 young kids) are looking for a house to rent in Coronado as well. She'd like it to be at least 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms is best but not completely necessary. A/C instead of evap is a must and she has 1 dog and 2 cats to bring with her. -Ivana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060805/52c15189/attachment.htm From vcampo1 at cox.net Sat Aug 5 22:57:30 2006 From: vcampo1 at cox.net (vcampo1 at cox.net) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:57:30 -0700 Subject: 12th Oak circle garbage Message-ID: <14571509.1154843850989.JavaMail.root@fed1wml01.mgt.cox.net> Thanks, Ivana, for caring about your little piece of the hood. I think we should start a campaign to adopt Ivana's attitude and all of us pick up litter anytime we see it in our neighborhood. ---- Ivana Olson wrote: > I drive by the circle quite often, since it's between my house and my > sisters. I wouldn't mind keeping an eye out for trash and stopping to pick > it up when I see it. > > When my neighbors from across the street have their parties (at least 2 > saturdays a month, mind you) they always throw beer bottles and trash in my > yard and in the street between our houses. So I've pretty much gotten in the > habit of picking up my neighbors messes already. > > > > _______________________________________________ > --Note-- > By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. > Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post > to the central-city-discuss list. > > --Disclaimer-- > The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official > position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail > list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or > editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. > > To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list From wayne at xnar.com Sun Aug 6 11:42:46 2006 From: wayne at xnar.com (Wayne Murray) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 11:42:46 -0700 Subject: Coronado Pipes Message-ID: <20060806184250.HTLD10979.fed1rmmtao12.cox.net@Dell> Now that the pipes have been relocated and the message sent, a few have asked that the secret classified tape of the installation mission be released to the public, it has been leaked already. http://waynemurray.info/missionimpossable.wmv W -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060806/699f2ecb/attachment.htm From josepi at doitnow.com Sun Aug 6 12:32:03 2006 From: josepi at doitnow.com (Jo Clute) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 12:32:03 -0700 Subject: Coronado Pipes References: <20060806184250.HTLD10979.fed1rmmtao12.cox.net@Dell> Message-ID: <019e01c6b98f$148721a0$6401a8c0@JoClute> Wayne, You are the true American Cowboy!! You should win some kind of award for that!!!!!! :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Murray To: Gcna-Members Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Coronado Pipes Now that the pipes have been relocated and the message sent, a few have asked that the secret classified tape of the installation mission be released to the public, it has been leaked already. http://waynemurray.info/missionimpossable.wmv W ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ --Note-- By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post to the central-city-discuss list. --Disclaimer-- The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060806/f6e3c9ea/attachment.htm From andrea.delgaldo at highstream.net Sun Aug 6 13:21:16 2006 From: andrea.delgaldo at highstream.net (andrea.delgaldo at highstream.net) Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 16:21:16 -0400 Subject: RE- Also looking for two bedroom rental in Coronado. In-Reply-To: <20060805205011.OSYE1537.fed1rmmtao07.cox.net@D9HRH071> References: <20060805205011.OSYE1537.fed1rmmtao07.cox.net@D9HRH071> Message-ID: <1154895676.44d64f3c86b84@webmail.highstream.net> Does it have a garage? Quoting Don Mertes : > > > > > Hi All, > If anyone is interested, we do have this home available for rent at > $1200/month plus utilities. Click the link below and email me privately for > more details or to see it !! > > > Buyer Full Page > l.asp?prp=mls&AgentId=DM160&EmailKey=52862542> > > > > :) Don > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info [ > > mailto:central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info] On Behalf Of Ivana Olson > > Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 1:21 PM > > To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info > > Subject: Also looking for two bedroom rental in Coronado. > > While we're mentioning it, my friend and her family (fianci and 2 young > > kids) are looking for a house to rent in Coronado as well. She'd like it to > be at least 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms is best but not completely necessary. > > A/C instead of evap is a must and she has 1 dog and 2 cats to bring with > her. > > -Ivana > > > > > > > > > > > From donmertes1 at cox.net Sun Aug 6 13:33:16 2006 From: donmertes1 at cox.net (Don Mertes) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 13:33:16 -0700 Subject: RE- Also looking for two bedroom rental in Coronado. In-Reply-To: <1154895676.44d64f3c86b84@webmail.highstream.net> Message-ID: <20060806203330.IUCQ12581.fed1rmmtao02.cox.net@D9HRH071> YUP... 1 car garage, but it's enclosed in the backyard so it's more like a storage area. :) Don -----Original Message----- From: central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info [mailto:central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info] On Behalf Of andrea.delgaldo at highstream.net Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 1:21 PM To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Subject: Re: RE- Also looking for two bedroom rental in Coronado. Does it have a garage? Quoting Don Mertes : > > > > > Hi All, > If anyone is interested, we do have this home available for rent > at $1200/month plus utilities. Click the link below and email me > privately for more details or to see it !! > > > Buyer Full Page > tBuyFu l.asp?prp=mls&AgentId=DM160&EmailKey=52862542> > > > > :) Don > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info [ > > mailto:central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info] On Behalf Of Ivana > Olson > > Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 1:21 PM > > To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info > > Subject: Also looking for two bedroom rental in Coronado. > > While we're mentioning it, my friend and her family (fianci and 2 > young > > kids) are looking for a house to rent in Coronado as well. She'd like > it to be at least 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms is best but not completely necessary. > > A/C instead of evap is a must and she has 1 dog and 2 cats to bring > with her. > > -Ivana > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ --Note-- By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post to the central-city-discuss list. --Disclaimer-- The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list From president at gcna.info Sun Aug 6 14:07:11 2006 From: president at gcna.info (GCNA President) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 14:07:11 -0700 Subject: rentals In-Reply-To: <20060806203330.IUCQ12581.fed1rmmtao02.cox.net@D9HRH071> Message-ID: <000f01c6b99c$49205410$0a00a8c0@TVS> Howdy all: An excellent place to list your "for rent" and all the details that go with it can be found on the GCNA forum, here: http://www.gcna.info/forum/ Check out the header titled: buying, selling, renting. Thanks much, Tyler From Brig180 at aol.com Sun Aug 6 14:14:05 2006 From: Brig180 at aol.com (Brig180 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 17:14:05 EDT Subject: rentals Message-ID: <563.3ce9707.3207b59d@aol.com> A neat idea might be to list the rental there, and post some photos, then announce on the listserv with a link to the listing on the forum. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060806/9fd8d27d/attachment.htm From josepi at doitnow.com Sun Aug 6 14:51:28 2006 From: josepi at doitnow.com (Jo Clute) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 14:51:28 -0700 Subject: rentals References: <000f01c6b99c$49205410$0a00a8c0@TVS> Message-ID: <01cd01c6b9a2$a61321b0$6401a8c0@JoClute> Of course, there is absolutely not one problem whatsoever on any sort of level at any given moment come rain, shine or heavy bugs about just asking around on the list serve for current rentals as well. I just wanted to clear that up ----- Original Message ----- From: "GCNA President" To: Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: RE: rentals > Howdy all: > An excellent place to list your "for rent" and all the details that go > with > it can be found on the GCNA forum, here: http://www.gcna.info/forum/ > Check > out the header titled: buying, selling, renting. > Thanks much, > Tyler > > > _______________________________________________ > --Note-- > By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. > Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post > to the central-city-discuss list. > > --Disclaimer-- > The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official > position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail > list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or > editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. > > To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list > From jankyouverymuch at yahoo.com Sun Aug 6 16:13:07 2006 From: jankyouverymuch at yahoo.com (D A M O N) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 16:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 12th Oak circle garbage In-Reply-To: <14571509.1154843850989.JavaMail.root@fed1wml01.mgt.cox.net> Message-ID: <20060806231307.8474.qmail@web50014.mail.yahoo.com> That's a great idea, especially since school starts next week. Any needing a daily "feel good" shot in the arm, is welcome to stroll by my house on any given school day and take your pick from Wendy's bags, bottles of Sprite, crumpled up homework assignments and, as a reward, you can take home as many tennis balls as you can carry! (this message was meant to be totally tongue in cheek....but seriously, you're welcome anytime!) Damon --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060806/625971da/attachment.htm From hazey_marie at hotmail.com Sun Aug 6 20:06:59 2006 From: hazey_marie at hotmail.com (Ivana Olson) Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 20:06:59 -0700 Subject: 12th Oak circle garbage Message-ID: Ooh.. I might take you up on the tennis ball offer. My dogs eat through one of those in two weeks.. it's just impractical to keep buying them. From wayne at xnar.com Sun Aug 6 20:22:29 2006 From: wayne at xnar.com (Wayne Murray) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 20:22:29 -0700 Subject: Coronado Pipes In-Reply-To: <019e01c6b98f$148721a0$6401a8c0@JoClute> Message-ID: <20060807032234.ZMQ554.fed1rmmtao11.cox.net@Dell> Frustrated, gumption, bullheaded and now true American Cowboy. I like that collection of labels. W _____ From: central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info [mailto:central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info] On Behalf Of Jo Clute Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:32 PM To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Subject: Re: Coronado Pipes Wayne, You are the true American Cowboy!! You should win some kind of award for that!!!!!! :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Murray To: Gcna-Members Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Coronado Pipes Now that the pipes have been relocated and the message sent, a few have asked that the secret classified tape of the installation mission be released to the public, it has been leaked already. http://waynemurray.info/missionimpossable.wmv W _____ _______________________________________________ --Note-- By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list. Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post to the central-city-discuss list. --Disclaimer-- The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association. To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060806/a78f398d/attachment.htm From wayne at xnar.com Sun Aug 6 22:08:31 2006 From: wayne at xnar.com (Wayne Murray) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 22:08:31 -0700 Subject: 12th Oak circle garbage In-Reply-To: <20060806231307.8474.qmail@web50014.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060807050834.RYVH6077.fed1rmmtao01.cox.net@Dell> Any "love notes" I can pretend were intended for me? W _____ From: central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info [mailto:central-city-discuss-bounces at gcna.info] On Behalf Of D A M O N Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:13 PM To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info Subject: RE: 12th Oak circle garbage That's a great idea, especially since school starts next week. Any needing a daily "feel good" shot in the arm, is welcome to stroll by my house on any given school day and take your pick from Wendy's bags, bottles of Sprite, crumpled up homework assignments and, as a reward, you can take home as many tennis balls as you can carry! (this message was meant to be totally tongue in cheek....but seriously, you're welcome anytime!) Damon _____ Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/central-city-discuss_gcna.info/attachments/20060806/337424b6/attachment.htm